Talk:The Wendy's Company

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: move. -- tariqabjotu 01:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wendy's Company → The Wendy's Company – The company included 'The' in its name, on the logo as well as numerous mentions on the company website. --Relisted. -- tariqabjotu 01:53, 16 September 2013 (UTC) [[ axg // ✉ ]] 01:18, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The question is not whether the company uses the definite article in its name, but whether it is commonly capitalised in running text. I can see no evidence that it is. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? What does capitalization have to do with the title of the article? Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 18:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Everything. Whether the definite article (i.e. The) is commonly capitalised in running text determines whether or not we use it in the title. See WP:THE, our guideline on this issue. Is it common to see "Wendy's is owned by The Wendy's Company" or "Wendy's is owned by the Wendy's Company"? If the former then we would use the definite article in the article title, if the latter then we wouldn't. The actual name the company itself uses is irrelevant; it's common usage that is relevant here. I see no evidence that common usage is to capitalise the definite article in running text. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support A Google search reveals that this company is commonly referred to as "The Wendy's Company" - 952,000 results for "The Wendy's Company" and 110,000 results for "Wendy's Company" Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 18:27, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is a weird result to me, that "X Y Z" would have more search returns than "Y Z", which seems illogical on its face. Other search engines showed more results for "Wendy's Company" than "The Wendy's Company", so I'm not sure how to interpret the Google results. Note that we're still not distinguishing frequency of "The Wendy's Company" versus "the Wendy's Company", with the lower case t. ENeville (talk) 01:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: note that we're looking for the common usage, not an "official" name. ENeville (talk) 01:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support--it's very common to see "The Wendy's Company" in running text. Red Slash 02:34, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Arguments to move are all either based on the official name or on an obviously inaccurate Google search. Andrewa (talk) 19:47, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support The company capitalizes the T in running text. I was unable to get this to work in Ngrams, so that's the best I can come up with in terms of usage. There's a semantic element to this, though. The subject of the article is the company that owns Wendy's. In its present form, it reads like the company owned by Wendy. Usually I say leave out the "the" if in doubt, but in this case meaning is lost without it. --BDD (talk) 23:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support; I agree with BDD. WP:THE aside, the addition of the definite article aids clarity here. Powers ^T 21:11, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Merger Proposal

Prior to June 2011, The Wendy's Company owned both Wendy's and Arby's brands, and it therefore made sense to have a separate page for the corporate parent. Today, the corporate entity and the operating unit of the brand that sells Wendy hamburgers are one in the same and should be the same page. The company's annual report discusses the corporate divestitures in the Introduction for anyone caring to dig into the history. ^[1] Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 03:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose – the parent company has a long history, most of which the proposing mergerer removed (now restored). While the article needs cleanup, wholesale removal of content is inappropriate.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 00:36, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Loriendrew: -- DWG was not the parent company of Wendy's in any meaningful sense of the word. Wendy's was founded by Dave Thomas, existed as an independent entity for decades before being acquiring in a corporate acquisition by one of the first corporate raiders, Victor Posner. In the 1960s through the 90s, these types of holding companies / conglomerates ^[2] became something of a phenomenon, acquiring and disposing of various assets, of which Wendy's was one.

Mentioning the decade-plus of ownership by the conglomerate is relevant to the Wendy's topic, but should not dominant the article as reverted. Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 02:11, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the holding company (in whatever terminology that is desired), which changed names but is historically and significantly different than Wendy's (the restaurant chain), which is a different subject and has an independent article.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 02:17, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The original article here deals with Wendy's/Arby's, not Triarc / DWG original article text. Sounds like we agree there should be separate articles for Triarc/DWG and the public entity that is now Wendy's. As this one has the ticker, and the correct spelling of the company's name, I'd suggest we make this one the reference article for the public company Wendy's, and create a separate one for Triarc / DWG. Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 02:23, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Articles over the past two decades tend to refer to Peltz and Triarc as investors or holding company parents, rather than founders or owners of the founding company. And consistently refer to Dave Thomas as the founder, indicating the 1969 date as the more commonly cited founding date of this entity:

Peltz Reports Other Approaches for Wendy’

Wendy’s Rejects 2 Offers

In what may be a risky move, Wendy's will bring Dave Thomas back to its campaign.

HOW WENDY'S BOTCHED BREAKFAST : Chain Returns to Kitchen After Made-to-Order Mistake Mcenedella (talk)(contribs) 02:45, 9 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Why merge the two? The two companies have separate histories before Wendy's. End of story. Jgera5 (talk) 20:45, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "2015AnnualReport". Retrieved 2016-10-30.
^ funding universe http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/triarc-companies-inc-history/. Retrieved 9 November 2016. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

Roast tweets

Short request, I think there should be something about their recent tweets under Marketing or Controversies. Seelamviraj (talk) 20:39, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You really did it this time Wendy

You let some manager in NC fire a Downs kid after he worked for 20 years!! Are you out of your everloving mind. Big Dave is rolling over in his grave!!! You can’t do that legally and you sure can’t do it morally. You hired him AND kept him for 20 years and then you fire him because of the disability he had from jump street??? You gotta fix this 2600:1700:31F3:EB40:383D:5615:EBC:170F (talk) 19:02, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative Wendy's

Wendy's renamed one of their locations on the UT Austin campus in 2018 to "Jendy's" for a few days that received some local coverage. They even created a [still existing] twitter account for the location. This kind of goes with the above "Roast tweets" in that I think this article might also need a "Social media campaigns"/"Meme" subsection to encapsulate all of these things. As a UT alumnus, the Jendy's move was iconic af and I think it deserves at least a mention, but I'm pretty sure there's more to the meme-ality of it that deserves a conversation before an addition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bismuth96 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How old do you have to be to work at Wendy's 107.116.183.41 (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[2105AnnualReport-1] "2015AnnualReport". Retrieved 2016-10-30.

[2] funding universe http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/triarc-companies-inc-history/. Retrieved 9 November 2016. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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